On the same topic Mark H says,
there is only one answer: the tangible, manifest, presence of God
We don't need debates. We need His presence. Neither does the unbelieving world need slickly presented church services. They're genuinely hungry and thirsty for His presence too. They'll accept all manner of amateurishness and mess if only the presence of God is tangible. Isn't that what the gospel is all about?
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